Maybe the elders are projecting their own personal Armageddon. They may have fears of child sexual abuse victims coming after them for hiding pedophiles.
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I just watched the final video from this years convention. OMG!!!
by NikL ini am shaking all over right now.
i think it's worse that the bunker video.. i used to think there was no way that these people would actually "drink the cool aid" if you get my drift, but seeing this video i am now not sure it could never happen.. having a wife who i love dearly trapped in this cult is really freaking me out right now...
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Struggling to Live a Lie
by Addison0998 init’s been very difficult, much more than i first anticipated to live a lie, (be pimo and a regular active member) i still live with my parents but i plan on moving out at the end of the year, so i really need to keep it together.
but i think people are starting to get suspicious that something is up.
i’ve stopped commenting, going on service all the time, talking at the door, and occasionally voicing something, such as a question that no one has a good answer for, that makes people think, but ahah, thinking is dangerous and wrong so that is suspicious of course.
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Try to find a way to give yourself a break during the meetings. Listening will drive you crazy. Sometimes it will make you mad or want to roll your eyes.
So if you can, write down things you want to do later or write a story - anything that will take your mind off of the lies from the podium. Read something else on your tablet if you have one.
If people want to question you about the meeting - hey wasn't that part on giving the WT your inheritance great?- just nod and ask the same question back at them. Nobody really gets too deep after the meetings anyway. Then just excuse yourself because you've made "plans". Let them think it's service orientated.
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Scary Effectiveness of Assembly Videos
by Captain Schmideo2 inwell, i got to see the final day of this years regional convention.and i saw something that disturbs me.. the final, "summing up review" video.
it disturbs me because it was so well done.
(i wish i could remember the title of the song), to the strains of a solo vocalist singing in a fine "irish tenor", we see the actors from the previous videos of the last few days all assembling together in a clearing.
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You know who else will be affected? All the studies that have been told about a nice paradise earth, so they've been coming to the meetings on Sunday.
Here is their first assembly and on Sunday, they see the writing on the video. Either you are with us or against us. It may scare some because they aren't on the golden ark yet and cause them to panic. Some might be uncomfortable seeing all the JW's beaming with joy over the death of the millions of people represented by the soldiers. Others will sneak off to the bathrooms and make a hasty exit out the doors, never to welcome another witness at their door.
I saw something similar happen about 8 or 9 years ago at the KH. One study was so scared after the sunday meeting because the special talk by the CO was about how close the big A was and everyone not baptized wouldn't make it. The over eager brothers in the hall were saying Come Lord Jesus Come! The poor guy was crying in fear. I never saw him again.
Hope most of the invited studies wise up.
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Sometimes it's the little things....
by dubstepped ini'm listening to a podcast where a former elder describes how another elder conducted the watchtower study about hyperbole.
the elder called it hyper-bowl.
soon the whole congregation called it hyper-bowl.
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I'm afraid my english has been skewed since 1st grade. I thought the teacher was reading a different story one time, because I could not find the word kernel in the story. After much deliberation, I figured out the word was colonel. So I pronounced as I saw it. Col -o-nel. Where she got the "r" in it - I didn't find out till years later that it was "that" English.
Words are very strange - everyone is pronouncing thermometer wrong. It's really a thermo meter. See, now it makes sense. My sister is the whiz at knowing every rule of saying a word, but I missed that along with the lecture on how to read a clock and the knowing the months of the year.
You say bayou, I say biyou, but the next time I might say it your way.
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Scary Effectiveness of Assembly Videos
by Captain Schmideo2 inwell, i got to see the final day of this years regional convention.and i saw something that disturbs me.. the final, "summing up review" video.
it disturbs me because it was so well done.
(i wish i could remember the title of the song), to the strains of a solo vocalist singing in a fine "irish tenor", we see the actors from the previous videos of the last few days all assembling together in a clearing.
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Not many in the audience will think of regular people being killed by Jesus. See, it's just the satan driven military types that will die.
But the children. They will think of the nice friend at school, seeing Jesus coming to kill them. And the JW child, will feel fearful for wishing that their friend wouldn't die as well as thinking of some small thing they did that might turn Jesus's arrow at them.
- Didn't really study for the meeting like they said they did.
- Didn't want to come to the assembly.
- Doodled with their pencil or daydreamed while there.
Remember the video with Noah and his family dying because they didn't listen?
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"World conditions have never been as bad as they are now"
by Sour Grapes ini went to a funeral yesterday and ran into a jdub.
of course, he approached me and it didn't take more than a minute into the conversation for him to get into the jdub gloom and doom mode.
he said that world conditions have never been as bad as they are now.. i looked straight into his eyes and said, "i think that world conditions were a lot worse during world war two.".
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The last time the JW at work said it, I just said, well go back and in the Roman times. End of conversation.
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Hospitality - How not to.....March 2018 study article.
by punkofnice inwhat do you make of this part of the march 2018 watchtower study edition?.
2 among other things, peter urged his brothers: “be hospitable to one another.” (1 pet.
4:9) the word “hospitality” in greek literally means “fondness for, or kindness to, strangers.” note, however, that peter urged his christian brothers and sisters to be hospitable “to one another,” to those whom they already knew and associated with.
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The WT likes to point out how the "worldly" people are nice to them. Because of course, they recognize God is with them or that they are extra special people.
When Paul was shipwrecked, "the people of Malta showed them extraordinary kindness" Imagine today if a disaster hit Malta. Would the natives say that the JW's showed them kindness by rebuilding houses for them? No because it would be good enough for them to watch the loving kindness of the JW's towards one another, or a dog.
Matthew 5:46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Do not even tax collectors do the same?
I think the Tax Collectors are their Besties.
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CO asked for everyone 20 years old & younger for a group photo
by LevelThePlayingField inthere was a co visit in ohio a couple weeks ago.
when he was finishing up his sunday talk he said that he would like if "all the children that are from this congregation, not if you're just visiting, but from this congregation to come on up on the stage right after the meeting because i want to get a picture of you.".
i thought to myself, why?
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Over 30 years ago, the elders were always trying to involve children in feeling special about being a witness. For the CO i'm guessing, children were encouraged to draw a paradise picture. At the end of the meeting they came up to the stage and stood with their pictures. Parents took photos.
This was at a time when several wives started having babies in spite of the "it's too close to the end" and "this world is too bad to have children" spin. Have to make sure they stay in the fold you know.
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What makes you---YOU?
by eyeuse2badub inof course this is an open ended question but have you ever really thought about what makes you who you are?.
is it our looks, our personality, our physique, our intelligence, our experiences and subsequent memories, our beliefs?
is it a combination of all these things and even more?
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I think people have a basic personality but that can be altered with life experiences. Although I have always been very mindful of animals and bugs, I've had to become a little more ruthless towards spiders.
And tho for the most part, I'm not the naive and easily manipulated person I once was before the WT and a family member screwed me over - I still want to be kind and generous - unless you cross me
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Paranormal stuff: is it a cultural thing? Rant ahead
by Whynot inparanormal stuff is common where my family is from it's almost expected.
native american background, my great grandmother was a witch doctor a damn good one too, my non witness relatives dabble in it.
so i have seen stuff and experienced stuff.
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About 8 years ago, when I was still living with one of my younger sisters (I unfortunately bought a house with her) I had this experience.
My work didn't start till 10, so in the mornings, I would do things on the computer or garden outside. My part of the house consisted of a small living room, bathroom and bedroom. The kitchen was shared. On Thursday of that week, I'd just been sitting at the computer reading stuff. It was getting close to work time so I turned it off. It was then that I realized that I'd been hearing a noise for quite some time. It wasn't loud but consistent. A soft rustling noise, almost like the pages of a magazine being flipped in a breeze. But it wasn't quite that either. Just a rolling, fluttering soft muttering of a noise. I got up and walked to the bedroom door - and it stopped.
I looked ahead into the living room, but my cat wasn't there, no magazine was blowing in a breeze from the open patio door. In fact when I looked outside, there wasn't a breeze at all. Aha I thought, it's the cat from up the street poking around in our house again. So I started clapping my hands together to startle it out of hiding. I went from my side, through the kitchen and into my sisters side of the house making noise and looking for the cat. Nothing. I stood silently listening but heard nothing. I shrugged my shoulders and figured it must have snuck out.
I completely forgot about it until I was once again sitting at my computer the next day. Just as I turned it off, I recognized the same fluttery noise going on. So I quietly got up and slowly walked to the bedroom door, expecting to catch my cat or the neighbors cat messing around. Just as I got near the door, it stopped. I stood listening and looking but there was nothing. No breeze outside. Everything was quiet. I walked silently through the house. Nothing moved, no thing was there.
Have you ever smelled something and tried to figure out exactly what it was that you were smelling? Well this noise had no reference in my mind as to what it was. Not a magazine, not leaves, not a cat batting papers, not a mouse scuttling thru the walls - there just wasn't anything I could pick and say it was "this" making the noise. At this point, I was suspicious because I'd had previous experiences and this seemed to be shaping up into another "demon" thing. Which annoyed me no end. You know growing up as a JW, demon's always came from second hand things etc. I liked shopping thrift stores and garage sales, so what it could be was a long list. Oh man, I just hated the thought of it all. Stupid demons, didn't they have anything better to do? Really really annoying. So annoying I just left for work and didn't think about it again.
Saturday and no work. I went out in the backyard and followed my cat around. Sat down at the computer. Read stuff, did some artwork on it. Heard that crappy noise again.
I just sat listening for a minute or so. The soft muttering noise. I got up, walked to the door, it stopped. Nothing there. I could hear some kids out on the school yard faintly. No wind. No cat. How annoying.
I went into the kitchen and leaned against the counter and thought. Everything I knew about demons, my own experiences. Things in the bible like Jesus and the pig herd. And I thought, what an incredibly stupid thing it was if it was true, that demons become bound to an object and you have to toss it out to get rid of them. I then imagined several people finding a demon infested object, throwing it out into the trash. The trash goes to a landfill and the demons are trapped in layers and layers of crap. I then imagined a cut away of the dump and all the demons with word bubbles saying "Help! I'm stuck in a dump and can't get out!" Jeesh, why would God then need an Angel with a key to an abyss to bind them, if he could just toss them into a landfill?
So it didn't make any sense. I pondered even more about why would a "demon" or whatever it is, create a noise just to bug someone? I thought about the chess piece from long ago. Why was the queen used and not just a pawn or any other piece? There was some intelligence or "knowing" about the fact the queen was used in the game. But I didn't know until the owner told me. So why pull these tricks? Didn't they have anything better to do? I thought of Loki the trickster. Maybe whatever these things are, have played around with people through the centuries and so myths, gods are made. Or maybe not. I will probably never know.
So I stood thinking about it for a long time. And then my sister came home from field service and saw me there. She went into her room and came back out. "Have you brought anything home lately? Like from a thrift store or anything?" she asked. I said Why? She then relates that last night, she heard her phone ring but didn't get up to answer it. She heard a man leave a message on the machine, but there was none when she played it back this morning. Now my sister is a demon freak. She's afraid of them and attributes lots of things to them. So this could be one of those cases where the message logs on her phone machine were full and so didn't record the message. But whatever. I didn't want to be bugged by this noise again so I played the game and put some things out by the garbage can.
Surprise, no more noises. Never happened again. Really, it could have been a random entity passing by and none of the objects were "possessed" but made me play the game they have going. Who makes these rules anyway? My older sister said later, Why didn't you bring them all back in the next day and see what would happen? I said the next time it does happen, I'll bring them to your house and you can entertain them.
Really. Annoying.